Microsoft News 13-August-2015

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Hi folks, it’s been a while since I’ve posted but there’s a great reason for that – I got married and was away on honeymoon 🙂 We’re back and trying to get back into the normal swing of things. I was away for the Windows 10 launch, happily ignoring the world. Windows 10 in the businesses is not a big deal yet – Microsoft needs to clear up licensing and activation for businesses before they’ll deliberately touch the great new OS – I’ve already had customers say “love it, but not until we get clarification”.

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6 Comments on Microsoft News 13-August-2015

  1. Hey Aidan, Whats the issue around Win 10 licensing?

    You can clean install Windows 10 Enterprise with no licences key – will use KMS by default. Enter a key to use a MAK VL key.
    Windows 7 Pro but domain joined? If PC has a genuine Win7 licence you can upgrade to Windows 10 for free. For re-install I suspect but do not know for sure that PC will need access to Windows Store via Internet to re-activate. As I understand MS are keeping hashed values of PC’s within the Windows Store, to allow re-installation on the same PC – this record of the PC isn’t necessarily tied to a personal Microsoft Account.

    Cheers

    Janson

    • A) Few have Enterprise licensing.
      B) Do you think any business wants to manually upgrade every PC? 1) Manual and 2) Upgrade both cause concerns for admins.
      C) The free upgrade and activation offer (outside of KMS) appears to only apply to upgrades.

  2. Hi Aidan,

    Some good points and agree on B) but suspect much of the upgrade process can be automated. For ourselves which fits in the SMB category, with approx 425 PCs/Laptops the majority of which came with an OEM Windows 7 licence we will need to make a decision of whether or not we take those to Windows 10 Pro, via the ‘free upgrade’ or potentially licence EMS per user (Which I think is unlikely).

    For those on Windows 7 VL there is no free upgrade, unless those VL licences are covered by SA. Of course if they had a pre-existing Windows 7 licence shipped on those PC’s (or greater 8/8.1) then they could go the revert to OEM image route, and upgrade.

    I do agree that having to upgrade to get a licence is a pain – perhaps a tool to allow business users to script an activation of an existing Windows 7 Pro PC would be useful, without having to do the actual upgrade piece. Then normal imaging techniques can used to deploy Windows 10 that should then activate.

    We would certainly hope for some tool, but we will make a decision of a ‘free Win 10 upgrade’ and assoctiate time cost of doing those ‘dummy upgrades’ versus the cost of essentially re-licensing PC for a Windows 10 Pro license we could of got for ‘free’.

    • >For those on Windows 7 VL there is no free upgrade, unless those VL licences are covered by SA.
      > Of course if they had a pre-existing Windows 7 licence shipped on those PC’s (or greater 8/8.1)
      > then they could go the revert to OEM image route, and upgrade.

      Manual upgrade followed by reset to factory settings to get a clean install? Try that with your 425 PCs! I bet the resignations come in quick and fast.

      It would be useful if a current genuine Windows activation could be registered online via “some tool”. And then this would allow a clean install. But nothing like that has appeared.

  3. How does all of this interact with re imaging rights per this document: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Licensing/learn-more/brief-reimaging-rights.aspx

    All OEM Windows 7 & 8 Pro licenses are supposed to be eligible for the upgrade. Can we buy a 10 Volume key and re-image our machines to 10 based on their existing license?

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